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Scorpion Spider (female)

Lurio cf. solennis

Description:

There were several different species of these spiders in this area. Their abdoman's were different. This little one caused a bit of excitement on the Jumping Spiders page on FB ! David Hill "I'm not familiar with this species, but definitely not Paraphidippus aurantius or anything like it. It looks like you have found both a male and a female. I'm confident that this is the dendryphantine (group includes Paraphidippus and Phidippus) Lurio, possibly Lurio solennis, the type species of an unusual group of spiders. The front legs are quite unusual. From what I can find, this genus has never been found outside of South America (Brazil, Venezuela, Guiana). In addition, no one has ever published photographs of the living spiders, which are quite spectacular. This is quite a find. Send me as many photos as you can. If you are interested, we can publish your records and photos in PECKHAMIA. Please send photos on the Costa Rican species also. There is really only one species in Lurio with a reasonable description. There are more described Rudra, which may be related." Dominik Hofer: "David, I just entered this group and missed the whole discussion here, but came to the same ID Lurio sp.., but never have seen a natural picture of it. So Pamela's spider are really spectacular. I am looking forward to get more info from you." David Hill "I can confirm that this is a Lurio, and can be called "Lurio cf. solennis (C. L. Koch 1846)".with confidence. That is actually the only well-described species in the genus, but only from tropical South America previously. These are the first photos that I have seen of living specimens. It's great to see both the male and the female, from two different countries. There is really a considerably difference in body proportions between Lurio and either Parnaenus or Paraphidippus (also tropical dendryphantines), and the most obvious difference is in the length of the legs of Lurio, and the way that they are held in a "right angle" shape (suggesting a scorpion) in front of the spider. There are a lot of other differences at a detailed level. Thank you, Pamela! So now people who have studied the neotropical Dendryphantinae (G. B. Edwards, G. Ruiz) are comfortable with the identification of Lurio when a spider is close to L. solennis as figured by Crane." Xacir Deric "Prof. David whats is the main difference between Lurio and Parnaenus? Prosoma shape?" David Hill "Parnaenus can be very similar to Paraphidippus. Note the more complex pattern of white scales on the female Lurio, the more elongate form of both sexes, but most of all the unusual size and position of legs I. The common name "Scorpion Spider" is quite appropriate for this Lurio."

Habitat:

On bushes beside a path near a small stream

Notes:

There has been a whole debate about this little spider by the arachnodolists. This is the result... "I have confirmed that this can be called Lurio cf. solennis by our top experts on the dendryphantine salticids, Drs. G.B. Edwards and G. Ruiz. The "cf." just means that we don't have specimens to confirm the identity, but it looks like this species from photographs. This species has been found in Costa Rica in a recent survey there, but the results of that survey have not been published, so these will be the first records of the species in Central America." David Hill

2 Species ID Suggestions

bayucca
bayucca 8 years ago
Jumping Spider
Lurio sp. Lurio solennis
Jumping Spider
Paraphidippus aurantius


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17 Comments

pamsai
pamsai 8 years ago

Latest update...
"I have confirmed that this can be called Lurio cf. solennis by our top experts on the dendryphantine salticids, Drs. G.B. Edwards and G. Ruiz. The "cf." just means that we don't have specimens to confirm the identity, but it looks like this species from photographs.
This species has been found in Costa Rica in a recent survey there, but the results of that survey have not been published, so these will be the first records of the species in Central America."
David Hill

pamsai
pamsai 8 years ago

Oh I see I missed all this discussion while I was sleeping. Thanks Ashutosh for filling bayucca in... I'm sorry to not fill you in on the dispute bayucca, It was late and I just shot off a quick line before I went to bed and forgot you didn't know what was going on.
Pretty clever bayucca to come up with Lurio sp. though. David Hill (Jumping Spider group) thinks it might be a new find, or maybe a first off photo, because of the unusual front legs, and I've sent him off the original photos. Lets see what happens next.

pamsai
pamsai 8 years ago

Did you find the group jumping spiders bayucca? https://www.facebook.com/groups/salticid...
or maybe just this
https://www.facebook.com/groups/salticid...

Ashutosh Dudhatra
Ashutosh Dudhatra 8 years ago

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1181880915... .You need to be a member of this group(jumping spiders) to open the link!I guess Pam knows more about it.

bayucca
bayucca 8 years ago

Ashutosh, do you have a link of this fb page?

bayucca
bayucca 8 years ago

Looks like being the female and this one the male:
http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/175...

Ashutosh Dudhatra
Ashutosh Dudhatra 8 years ago

Yes bayucca its a Lurio Sp. Confirmed by an arachnologist on Fb :)

bayucca
bayucca 8 years ago

OK, next one to dispute ;-)...
I think this is a Lurio sp., but probably not Lurio solennis (?), but only due to the range indicated in one link (mostly northern South America). But ranges are not always really reliable. Not mentioned means not automatically not found. In the links it was labelled once as male and once as female, whatever it is actually. In one link the same one is called Lurio solennis and in the other one it is mentioned under Salticidae of Central America and the Caribbean, so Nicaragua would be within the mentioned range.
If you carefully look at the markings Lurio sp. is a perfect match, although there is again quite a variability within these markings.
http://www.jumping-spiders.com/index_wik...
http://salticidae.org/salticid/catalog/L...
http://tolweb.org/Lurio/2894
http://salticidae.org/salticid/diagnost/...
http://salticidae.org/salticid/diagnost/...

bayucca
bayucca 8 years ago

I do not know who is disputing. I yesterday checked the literature and thought also of Paraphidippus/Metaphidippus and kicked Paraphidippus aurantia out due to the markings which are different, specially the colors of the legs. Range looks not bad for it, though. I have another one in my mind, but need some more time to look for it...

pamsai
pamsai 8 years ago

This ID is under dispute, I removed it from the spotting. Let's see what turns up next.

Ashutosh Dudhatra
Ashutosh Dudhatra 8 years ago

Sorry Pam, i'd already commented on that!All i know is that its a jumping spider but dont know the genus and species. :)

pamsai
pamsai 8 years ago

thank you Ashutosh... what about this other one? Do you recognize that also by any chance !?
http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/175...

Ashutosh Dudhatra
Ashutosh Dudhatra 8 years ago

A beautiful jumper Paraphidippus aurantius it is. :)



pamsai
pamsai 8 years ago

I added the only other one I have got, bayucca...

bayucca
bayucca 8 years ago

Any other picture of it?

pamsai
pamsai 8 years ago

hahaha John. Yes you could call me that... Jewels of nature !

Wow!!! you're a jewel hunter Pam.

pamsai
Spotted by
pamsai

Rivas, Nicaragua

Spotted on Jun 15, 2015
Submitted on Jul 19, 2015

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