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Rare Redeye Flat Butterfly

Chaetocneme denitza

Notes:

I saw this beautiful red-eyed butterfly, wingspan about 4cm, while walking in Parklands Reserve near Nambour. Having done some research (see linked reference) I wish I had taken a shot with the flash to bring up the wing colours, which are amazing.

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29 Comments (1–25)

maplemoth66
maplemoth66 4 years ago

The antennae, looks like the antennae of a skipper.

Leuba Ridgway
Leuba Ridgway 8 years ago

....and thanks for the information ..

Leuba Ridgway
Leuba Ridgway 8 years ago

Fantastic spotting Shanna! - the whites really stand out don't they ? and just the right amount- beautiful !!

ShannaB
ShannaB 8 years ago

Hey Dylan8, are you a troll? I hope not, Project Noah's a lovely online community where I (a confirmed cynic) have learned to find wonder in the world again. Perhaps you can do the same. To address your queries:
- I thought it was a moth at first too, but my research showed otherwise. According to Brisbane Insects website (a very reputable source), Flat Skippers - Subfamily Pyrginae - are also known as Spread-winged Skippers and Dust-flats. Butterflies in this Subfamily Pyrginae rest with their wings wide opened on flat surfaces. Compared with other skippers (which do look a LOT like moths), butterflies in this subfamily are large and robust.
- I can do a pic of me with a giraffe (I am even feeding it in the photo), but we're not really into posting pics of humans here.
Thanks heaps for generating the discussion, I've never had such a popular post. ; )

Sergio Monteiro
Sergio Monteiro 8 years ago

Is it over? Then somebody bring the beer and lets sing. Anyone knows "Lily Marlene"?

LarsKorb
LarsKorb 8 years ago

hm...I watched movies with a less disappointing end... :/ not satisfied.

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

I actually downloaded this app for guidance to a species of mushrooms that my books couldn't identify. But if I cross paths with a dragon, unicorn, fairy, or anything that will absolutely astonish everyone, it will go here first. By the way, (speaking of mystical animals) somebody please post a picture of them with a giraffe....good luck:)

Mark Ridgway
Mark Ridgway 8 years ago

Ok. So what you should do now is suggest an ID and provide a link so we can all understand.
And how about snapping some spottings for us all to enjoy and learn from.

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

I hold my ground at moth. I made google my friend tonight, although it isn't my first resort

LarsKorb
LarsKorb 8 years ago

Affirmative :)

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

All American with German background, pleased to meet you. Can we agree to be mentally satisfied?

LarsKorb
LarsKorb 8 years ago

Educated - entertainment is something different to me, but hey, I'm German...what do I know about entertainment at all? :)

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

I'm glad that somebody was entertained :)

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

Not trying to present a problem for anybody, but I am pleased to say that I met argybee for he can hold a decent civilized debate. And I will show you all mwahahaha!!

LarsKorb
LarsKorb 8 years ago

To be honest, I found that discussion pretty educative.

Mark Ridgway
Mark Ridgway 8 years ago

No bickering here Dylan8. We're all here to learn. If you 'know' something for sure then we will all be pleased if you can share it. Do let us know what you discover about this.
Oh yeah ... and welcome to project noah.

Sergio Monteiro
Sergio Monteiro 8 years ago

Both of you!

Sergio Monteiro
Sergio Monteiro 8 years ago

Hey boys, lets take a breath, ok? This is not the place or time for that. Grow up!

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

Regardless of how rare or beautiful a moth is a moth and I know one when I see one. It is possible that I am wrong but not probable. And rules isn't quite the word you were looking for, perhaps law? Back to the topic; butterflies Always Pirch their wings up, I don't quite remember why but it's logical and I am researching as we carry this pitiful bickering

Mark Ridgway
Mark Ridgway 8 years ago

That's all very good Dylan8. Those 'rules' for distinguishing moths and butterflies can be very handy. Since joining ProjectNoah and seeing hundreds of lepidoptera I have found that your 'rules' don't always work. Have you read ShannaB's link to the identity? I think you should. The people at Brisbane insects DO make sure of what they say before they say it.... so back to fourth grade again :)

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

So fourth grade

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

Pirch* rather than pitch

Dylan8
Dylan8 8 years ago

No. However, simply by looking at the antennae you can observe that it has "fur" at the end (butterflies lack this); and if this isn't enough, butterflies do not hold upside down. And if this isn't enough butterflies also pitch there wings in an upright position unlike its near relative the moth:)

Mark Ridgway
Mark Ridgway 8 years ago

What makes you think that Dylan8 ? Have you got a link for ID?

ShannaB
Spotted by
ShannaB

Caloundra, QLD, Australia

Spotted on Feb 18, 2012
Submitted on Mar 5, 2012

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