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the one underneath is ear-wig.. but what is the one above ?

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22 Comments

ChunXingWong
ChunXingWong 12 years ago

Definitely not a cicada by the looks of it.
I believe it is a plant hopper but I don't know what family it is from.
Yes it is true that Delphacidae members have movable calcars at their hind legs and this specimen does not have a obvious one.
Something tells me that it's antenna is vital for it's identification because it seems that different planthopper family has different antenna "style".

ChimeTsetan
ChimeTsetan 12 years ago

dead specimen is disposed already :( sorry dungeonmaster.

Juan DiTrani
Juan DiTrani 12 years ago

the reason I don´t think any more on Delphacidae, is they always have a spur in the hind legs, wich is lacking in this insect. You can learn some about Hemipteroid families here http://www.entomology.umn.edu/museum/lin...

Juan DiTrani
Juan DiTrani 12 years ago

Hi, Dungeonmaster. It´s common in Dyctiopharida to have pointed head, but is not mandatory on the family. The "face" shape, on the other hand (pict. 2) is totally different to Cicadidae (cicadas have ridges on the face http://lh4.ggpht.com/-OusMDf5jiDw/StApgs...)

dungeonmasterShu
dungeonmasterShu 12 years ago

Still not 100% sure, either Cicadidae or Delphacidae, but agree with Nance about Dyctiopharidae.

ctsetan: sorry to be a pain, if you still have the deceased specimen could you try get more shots around the mouthparts and head/eye area

auntnance123
auntnance123 12 years ago

I looked at those also and thought the head was too pointed to be ctsetn's spotting. But I'm not the entymologist here. Great set of pictures for the task however.

Juan DiTrani
Juan DiTrani 12 years ago

Now I think more on a Dyctiopharid family, look at these pictures http://natureswow.com/bugs-hemiptera-2/d...
http://www.pbase.com/splluk/ecu09yrs_hom...

ChimeTsetan
ChimeTsetan 12 years ago

guys, this morning i realized the green bug (suspected cicada or leaf hopper) was dead from yesterday itself. Prey to spider maybe. But anyway i found it still stuck to the same spot. I have taken few more pics of the bug. I hope these pics will help you all with identification. :)

dungeonmasterShu
dungeonmasterShu 12 years ago

Juan, look at the front legs here... is this not a Cicada?
http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/759...

only pupae (the picture you referred to) need the modifications, adult Cicadas do not bury themselves.

Juan DiTrani
Juan DiTrani 12 years ago

the reason I´m very sure is not a Cicada (Cicadidae) is they have front legs modified to bury (fossorial) and this insect don´t have those modifications http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/642...

Juan DiTrani
Juan DiTrani 12 years ago

it could also be possible to be a Dyctiopharidae, but I can´t see well on the picture the structures for making a diference.

dungeonmasterShu
dungeonmasterShu 12 years ago

Sorry Nance and Juan, was actually talking to Juan there, referring to Delphacidae...
*blush*
off to bed with me then!

dungeonmasterShu
dungeonmasterShu 12 years ago

Nance: i think you may be onto something there, i've now gone from leaning to the cicada, to balancing on the fence. pity the (visible) eye is not present, it may have offered us a clue.

Cicadas are also capable of jumping btw, have you ever caught one and held onto it? some of the ones i have flick their back pair of legs (much like a grasshopper) in an attempt to escape.

auntnance123
auntnance123 12 years ago

ctsetan, while some newly emerged cicaidas are green and may be smaller than average, I'm going to agree with keith that this is one of the many clear winged planthoppers.

Juan DiTrani
Juan DiTrani 12 years ago

the green insect is not a Cicada, is a Delphacid plant hopper

dungeonmasterShu
dungeonmasterShu 12 years ago

i would go with Cicada too... they do come in small greens. the back legs are that way cos it's dead.

ctsetan: how long was it, roughly?

Never seen a leafhopper with clear wings or whith wings that extend so far past the end of the abdomen (but then i have seen a cicada less than 20mm), so it doesn't mean they don't exist. altho on that point i have seen an earwig that was about 40mm and i believe some can grow to about 80mm

I think it also worth pointing out that cicadas and leafhoppers are from the same family, so taxonomically they are similar.

Still sticking with cicada!

keithp2012
keithp2012 12 years ago

Look at the back legs, they look almost like grasshopper legs used for jumping. We all know cicadas don't jump. I'm still going with plant hopper/leafhopper. Plus I never saw a cicada as small as an earwig!

ChimeTsetan
ChimeTsetan 12 years ago

are cicada's this much small? and are they really green? because here, the most common cicadas are dull colored.

it's definately a Cicada

keithp2012
keithp2012 12 years ago

Might be a plant hopper

misako
misako 12 years ago

cicada?

ChimeTsetan
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ChimeTsetan

Hubballi, Goa, India

Spotted on Oct 31, 2011
Submitted on Oct 31, 2011

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