first winter herring gull

the guide does show good pointers to ID.Thnx Jellis.:)

http://thebirdguide.com/gulls/herr_vs_th...

I like this guide better. Look at 1st winter. The wingtips are darker and the base of the bill will lose some of the black on the Herring.

http://larusology.blogspot.com/2009/11/h...
Thayers gulls are present too. But this does look like Herrings.

thnx so much Jellis and Ashley :)

Jellis is right, first winter herring gull

could be Jellis. The beak was more than 3/4th black.Alternate plumage for black backed or glaucous?

Not positive but it looks like 1st cycle Herring Gull