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Heliconius erato petiverana

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bayucca
bayucca 11 years ago
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Heliconius erato petiverana


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bayucca
bayucca 11 years ago

That's the usual way: Accumulation of toxins in caterpillars, together with some warning colors makes the caterpillar AND later the buttefly unpalatable for birds. There are actually some moths which produces as adults also toxins out of amico acids (for example Zygaenidae). But most of the toxins in Lepidoptera are built in the caterpillar. All these mechanism and mimicry seem at first sight quite easy to understand, if you go deeper in the topic you see that it is an extraordinarily complex and amazing matter. Any technique provided by one species will usually have a counterpart on the other side of another species.

Ignacio Gamboa
Ignacio Gamboa 11 years ago

Cool!
Question, H. melpomene produces its own poison or it keeps it from the larval stage? Because i've read that some butterflies keeps the venom from the plants they ate when they were caterpillars as a deffensive system. Is this the case? Or there is no butterflies who produce venom?

bayucca
bayucca 11 years ago

Yes, if you feel bad afterwards, you got Heliconius melpomene, if you feel fine Heliconius erato. Both are mimicrying each other. Heliconius melpomene is the poisenous one, Erato Longwing is pretending beeing poisenous, too, which is not the case.

Ignacio Gamboa
Ignacio Gamboa 11 years ago

Taste it? Really?

bayucca
bayucca 11 years ago

Or you can taste it.

bayucca
bayucca 11 years ago

Freshly captured Melpomene smells of fried-rice and Erato from Wytch-hazel (Hamamelis virginiana).

Ignacio Gamboa
Ignacio Gamboa 11 years ago

Smell them? Really? How so? That's new to me

bayucca
bayucca 11 years ago

It is the only way! Or you smell them...

Ignacio Gamboa
Ignacio Gamboa 11 years ago

Thanks bayucca, i have finally learned to distinguish this from H. melpomene rosina... I have to look at the white stripe, actually is not really hard to identify them with a good ventral view

Ignacio Gamboa
Spotted by
Ignacio Gamboa

San José, Costa Rica

Spotted on Jun 28, 2012
Submitted on Jun 28, 2012

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