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On one of the plants in our yard

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Art3
Art3 12 years ago

OK, after a discussion with my wife, I may have taken the photo at the White River Botanical garden's, butterfly enclosure in Indianapolis Indiana. Not real sure if this is where I took it at. Thanks for the discussions.

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

I disagree with suggestion. I believe it to the melpomene. In either case, the range of the butterfly is incompatible with the spotting location and the possible alternate location that the spotter provided.

Ashish Nimkar
Ashish Nimkar 12 years ago

Hi Sarah... I agree with suggestion... mentioned link also..what is any further doubt in your mind...?

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

Please explain. This spotting would be 19 or 20, correct? Isn't this made more difficult since we are looking at ti wings down rather than the wings up as shown in the mimicry website?
Still having that nasty location problem either way...

Ashish Nimkar
Ashish Nimkar 12 years ago

No doubt its erato specie.

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

Of course, we still have the location. Neither option seems to work.

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

Yes, the Postman and the Small Postman do look very much alike.

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

I looked at the map on the bottom of the page. Only saw one spotting near Pensacola for a different species. So I did a search on the site. It mentioned that the small postman may infrequently stray into the very southern parts of Texas (like Brownsville).

KarenL
KarenL 12 years ago

Apologies Sarah, i actually took the range info from the Peterson field guide which rather unhelpfully has the range map for the zebra longwing directly under the info on Heliconius erato. It lists them as occasional vagrants to south Texas but doesn't mention Florida. Sorry for the confusion. It still looks like H. erato though.

CoralAvery
CoralAvery 12 years ago

It looks like a Red postman like my spotting - there are red marks on the bottom of the body that are hidden in this spotting, but they still look identical:
http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/691...

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

A Small Postman (Heliconius erato) do come in a variety of color forms. In this configuration (from all butterfly exhibits and pictures of live specimens that I have seen), there should be identifiable red dots near the body. It could be gender specific, of course. I am interested in which site indicated it had been recorded in FL.

KarenL
KarenL 12 years ago

Sarah, there are recorded sightings for this species in Florida on the butterfliesandmoths.org website. There is a sighting map on the link above - you will need to scroll down to the bottom of the page.

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

It would need to be South America or Southern Central America. Have you been to a Butterfly Exhibit? A zoo with an enclosure?

KarenL
KarenL 12 years ago

This is an Erato heliconian which is recorded in Florida but very unlikely to have made it as far north as Indiana! Nice shot!

Art3
Art3 12 years ago

I may have the location wrong, may have been Florida. I take a lot of photos.

1Sarah2
1Sarah2 12 years ago

Well, it does look like a postman (Heliconius melpomene). Can't explain the location...

auntnance123
auntnance123 12 years ago

But in Indiana? On hibiscus?

auntnance123
auntnance123 12 years ago

That appears to be right, Alice; it's one of the postman butterflies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliconius_...

alicelongmartin
alicelongmartin 12 years ago

Crimson-patched Longwing!?

Art3
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Art3

Edinburgh, Indiana, USA

Spotted on Sep 9, 2011
Submitted on Sep 9, 2011

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